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31-07-2008, 09:02 AM
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also, another reason to start early...... as you gain levels your exp/sp ratio given automatically leans more towards exp. at level 1, you have a huge slant in your ratio towards sp. as you gain, it goes down, even if you do keep a gap. basically, what i'm trying to say is that a 5 level gap at level 10 is going to give a better sp ratio than a 5 level gap at level 20 or 30.
و ده بيقول ان ال exp/sp ratio فى ال low lvls بتكون اعلى بكتير من ال ratio فى ال high lvls و فعلا ده صحيح لانى عانيت جامد لما عملت farming و انا لفل 20
This is all about person preferance. I did farm SP at the beginning and it took over a week just to get 9k SP. That is acually rediculous. The good part is that with the SP I was allowed to keep a 0 Lv gap and level really really fast. But, now it is that time again where I need to get more SP for the long long journey to 70. So I am not saying that you have to farm SP at any level, I just think that it is easier that way, rather than being depressed not being able to get to Lv 40 just because you need more SP.
و ده واحد بيقول انه عمل 9 k sp و هو low lvl و اكتشف انهم مش كفاية و اضطر يعمل farming تانى
to keep it short, if you keep a lvl5 gap, you will run out of sp at around lvl50+. And to get to lvl50 with 5 lvl gap lets just say it will take you 2 month, if you farm all your sp and lvl with 0 gap,you can be in the same spot in a month and 1/2.(1 month sp farm)(2 week lvling). So sp farming saves time in the long run
و ده واحد تانى بيقول ان ال sp farming بيوفر وقت على المدى الطويل
I farmed 30k at 16, and now, at lvl 39, I'll be able to keep a 0/1 all game, leveling a LOT faster than if I had to farm those 30k later on in the game. It becomes a lot more necessary if you're a str blader, as you'll likely need in excess of 100k SP, and you'll never kill as efficiently as you did in the den.
دى بقى نصيحة للناس ال pure str اللى بيقولوا ان ال farming مش مهم ليهم
I only farmed about 10k SP because it was too repetitive and I've gone impatient, which I now regret. Right now I only have a 2 lvl difference(lvl 25), I only max out my mastery when there is skills(e.g Nukes) that will help me out grinding.
My previous character was a STR fire blader. I have kept a lvl 5 diff from 1-37. Even with a gold ticket, it was way too slow for me... this was when I didn't know about farming sp at lvl 16.
و ده واحد تانى بيقول ان عمل 10 الاف sp و دلقوتى ندم انه وقف farming و مكملش
you won't be able to lvl to lvl70 with 0 gap...u won't be able to get any skills at lvl30+ and disabling you to efficiently Pve, leading to slow lvling and eventaully not lvling at all.
و ده واجد بيقول انك مستحيل تفضل تلعب ب 0 lvl gap ... يعنى لازم هتعمل farming اكتر من مرة و انت بتلعب
I never really farmed, the biggest gap I have had is 4 and only for a very short period. I'm currently level 54. Do I have all my skills maxed, nope, are they high enough yes. Keeping my bow skills up wil cost me ~ 750-1000 sp per level, fire about the same. It's not too tough to keep up with a 0-3 level gap unless you insist on leveling every skill.
ده بقى واحد من المعارضين لل farming بس واضح ان فيه تناقض فيه كلامه ... لانه بيقول انه بيحتاج 1000 sp كل لفل ... طيب بيجيبهم منين من غير farming ؟
و حتى لو كلامه صحيح هيكون ضعيف فى ال wars و ال jobs مقارنة بالناس اللى فى نفس اللفل بتاعه
The ammount you "need" all depends on your build. I need about 66k by the time I am level 60, thus I need to start to farm again.
و ده واحد بيقول ان كان محتاج 66 k sp و هو لفل 60 و بدا يعمل farming و هو لفل 60 !!!!
شوية ملحوظات عن ال farming :
- مش لازم تلنزم بال 9 لفل فرق ... ممكن تخليهم 8 لو لفيت نفسك هتتعلم سحر جديد يعنى مثلا ال river force لفل 2 موجودة فى master lvl 7 مش لازم بقى تعلى ال mastery الى لفل 6 بعدين تستنى و تعليها لفل 7
- يا ريت متقعدش خالص ... استخدم potions لانها اوفر من القعاد ... انت لو قعدت هتضيع عليك حوالى 10 ثوانى يعنى حوالى 4 وحوش كنت تموتهم ... لو فرضنا ان كل وحش منهم على الاقل وقع دهب بس يعنى حوالى 600gold يبقى اديك جبت تمن ال potion و اكتر ...
-اللى عدا لفل 20 لسة ممكن يعمل farming بس هيعمل بالسلاح العادى بتاعه
- دايما خليك بخيل جدا فى استخدام ال sp ... يعنى متفتحش حاجات لمجرد التجربة و تفرح ان معاك 12 الف sp و تقول مش هتفرق ... او مثلا تفتح ال ressuruct skill عشان تصحى واحد صاحبك و انت مش هتستخدمها ...
قبل ما تفتح اي حاجة فكر انت اد ايه تعبت فى ال sp دول ... و فكر و اسال عشان متندمش
-يفضل و انت بتستخدم القوس يكون معاك سلاح تانى احتياطى ( spear مثلا ) عشان لما تلاقى الوحش قرب منك تستخدم
السلاح ده بدل ما تضيع Arrows ع الفاضى
-- مش شرط انك تطحن نفسك اوى و انت low lvl عشان تجيب 30 الف sp ... ممكن تجيب 10k sp و بعدين توقف و تكمل قدام يعنى ممكن مثلا كل عشرين لفل تعمل farming ....
also, another reason to start early...... as you gain levels your exp/sp ratio given automatically leans more towards exp. at level 1, you have a huge slant in your ratio towards sp. as you gain, it goes down, even if you do keep a gap. basically, what i'm trying to say is that a 5 level gap at level 10 is going to give a better sp ratio than a 5 level gap at level 20 or 30.
و ده بيقول ان ال exp/sp ratio فى ال low lvls بتكون اعلى بكتير من ال ratio فى ال high lvls و فعلا ده صحيح لانى عانيت جامد لما عملت farming و انا لفل 20
This is all about person preferance. I did farm SP at the beginning and it took over a week just to get 9k SP. That is acually rediculous. The good part is that with the SP I was allowed to keep a 0 Lv gap and level really really fast. But, now it is that time again where I need to get more SP for the long long journey to 70. So I am not saying that you have to farm SP at any level, I just think that it is easier that way, rather than being depressed not being able to get to Lv 40 just because you need more SP.
و ده واحد بيقول انه عمل 9 k sp و هو low lvl و اكتشف انهم مش كفاية و اضطر يعمل farming تانى
to keep it short, if you keep a lvl5 gap, you will run out of sp at around lvl50+. And to get to lvl50 with 5 lvl gap lets just say it will take you 2 month, if you farm all your sp and lvl with 0 gap,you can be in the same spot in a month and 1/2.(1 month sp farm)(2 week lvling). So sp farming saves time in the long run
و ده واحد تانى بيقول ان ال sp farming بيوفر وقت على المدى الطويل
I farmed 30k at 16, and now, at lvl 39, I'll be able to keep a 0/1 all game, leveling a LOT faster than if I had to farm those 30k later on in the game. It becomes a lot more necessary if you're a str blader, as you'll likely need in excess of 100k SP, and you'll never kill as efficiently as you did in the den.
دى بقى نصيحة للناس ال pure str اللى بيقولوا ان ال farming مش مهم ليهم
I only farmed about 10k SP because it was too repetitive and I've gone impatient, which I now regret. Right now I only have a 2 lvl difference(lvl 25), I only max out my mastery when there is skills(e.g Nukes) that will help me out grinding.
My previous character was a STR fire blader. I have kept a lvl 5 diff from 1-37. Even with a gold ticket, it was way too slow for me... this was when I didn't know about farming sp at lvl 16.
و ده واحد تانى بيقول ان عمل 10 الاف sp و دلقوتى ندم انه وقف farming و مكملش
you won't be able to lvl to lvl70 with 0 gap...u won't be able to get any skills at lvl30+ and disabling you to efficiently Pve, leading to slow lvling and eventaully not lvling at all.
و ده واجد بيقول انك مستحيل تفضل تلعب ب 0 lvl gap ... يعنى لازم هتعمل farming اكتر من مرة و انت بتلعب
I never really farmed, the biggest gap I have had is 4 and only for a very short period. I'm currently level 54. Do I have all my skills maxed, nope, are they high enough yes. Keeping my bow skills up wil cost me ~ 750-1000 sp per level, fire about the same. It's not too tough to keep up with a 0-3 level gap unless you insist on leveling every skill.
ده بقى واحد من المعارضين لل farming بس واضح ان فيه تناقض فيه كلامه ... لانه بيقول انه بيحتاج 1000 sp كل لفل ... طيب بيجيبهم منين من غير farming ؟
و حتى لو كلامه صحيح هيكون ضعيف فى ال wars و ال jobs مقارنة بالناس اللى فى نفس اللفل بتاعه
The ammount you "need" all depends on your build. I need about 66k by the time I am level 60, thus I need to start to farm again.
و ده واحد بيقول ان كان محتاج 66 k sp و هو لفل 60 و بدا يعمل farming و هو لفل 60 !!!!
شوية ملحوظات عن ال farming :
- مش لازم تلنزم بال 9 لفل فرق ... ممكن تخليهم 8 لو لفيت نفسك هتتعلم سحر جديد يعنى مثلا ال river force لفل 2 موجودة فى master lvl 7 مش لازم بقى تعلى ال mastery الى لفل 6 بعدين تستنى و تعليها لفل 7
- يا ريت متقعدش خالص ... استخدم potions لانها اوفر من القعاد ... انت لو قعدت هتضيع عليك حوالى 10 ثوانى يعنى حوالى 4 وحوش كنت تموتهم ... لو فرضنا ان كل وحش منهم على الاقل وقع دهب بس يعنى حوالى 600gold يبقى اديك جبت تمن ال potion و اكتر ...
-اللى عدا لفل 20 لسة ممكن يعمل farming بس هيعمل بالسلاح العادى بتاعه
- دايما خليك بخيل جدا فى استخدام ال sp ... يعنى متفتحش حاجات لمجرد التجربة و تفرح ان معاك 12 الف sp و تقول مش هتفرق ... او مثلا تفتح ال ressuruct skill عشان تصحى واحد صاحبك و انت مش هتستخدمها ...
قبل ما تفتح اي حاجة فكر انت اد ايه تعبت فى ال sp دول ... و فكر و اسال عشان متندمش
-يفضل و انت بتستخدم القوس يكون معاك سلاح تانى احتياطى ( spear مثلا ) عشان لما تلاقى الوحش قرب منك تستخدم
السلاح ده بدل ما تضيع Arrows ع الفاضى
-- مش شرط انك تطحن نفسك اوى و انت low lvl عشان تجيب 30 الف sp ... ممكن تجيب 10k sp و بعدين توقف و تكمل قدام يعنى ممكن مثلا كل عشرين لفل تعمل farming ....